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By TB on Jan 16, 2010 | In Viper's Tangled Web | 19 feedbacks »
I have known for a while now this craziness was coming. I had hoped against hope someone would see some damn sense and/or reason, but unfortunately, I was hoping in vain.
What am I talking about? Well, feel free to Google it. I am not sending any traffic to that damn website, but it seems certain individuals have launched a paintball site dedicated to women in paintball. I know what you’re saying…TB, what is wrong with that? That’s a good idea! Yes, on the surface, it seems like a great idea, but I plan on delving way deeper than just the surface. And while I’m doing that, I am going to have to post my thoughts about what we find…and what I already know. So, I will be naming some names and pointing some fingers, so sit back; fasten your seatbelt; keep your arms in the car at all times and get ready for one hell of a ride. Hope you are as ready for the ride as I am to take you on it!
So the ‘creator’ of this brainchild is one Pam 'Cookie' Robertson. Who is that, you might ask? Well, if you’ve played any Viper games in the last few years, you know she is the 'fiancée' of Kerry 'Viper' Rosenberry of Viper Paintball. Of course she is much more than that. But a PB Woman? Having a website where people tell you how great you are and pictures of you in a T-shirt doesn’t make you a paintball woman. And neither does a cute little tagline.
What else is she? Little-known fact (about to be very well-known): Pam ‘Cookie’ Robertson is the main reason one of the most prevalent and recognized women in scenario paintball, Diane 'Mother' Howe-McKinnon of MXS and Blitzkrieg fame is no longer in the sport (either as a player or a promoter). Yes, you might want to read that again. Still with me? While most of the paintball community at large thought it was me, I’m going to have to finally set that particular record straight: the mean ol’ TB WAS NOT the one who looked for or found the information about Patrick ‘Pacman’ McKinnon. And while we’re at it, I didn’t pay anyone to go get it, I didn’t post it on any forums and I didn’t mail it out to sponsors or prominent people in the paintball community.
Why would she do this? Because Patrick McKinnon had the audacity to sue Kerry Rosenberry over Viper Enterprises, that’s why. Pam got mad and was looking for anything they could use against Patrick. She did the first thing anyone does when they want some dirt: she Googled him. Now, Patrick was at one time synonymous with scenario paintball, so I’m sure that Google session turned up hundreds upon hundreds of pages. I’m also sure she spent hours upon hours going over each and every one of them until she finally found what she was looking for: a link to a rape case where one Patrick McKinnon raped a woman in Oklahoma in the 80’s.
Now, I won’t deny I was involved. I was told what she found almost immediately. I knew the implications of something like this, and what it would/could do. I was told the exact plan for the release of this atomic bomb. Pam and/or Kerry made copies of the documents retrieved from the Tulsa courthouse, put them in little envelopes and mailed them all to a friend of hers (to this day, I don’t know who) on the East Coast, so the postmark wouldn’t be from Texas. I commented on the situation on my own website (because it is my world, bitches!) and watched while people crawled out of the woodwork to either attack or defend Patrick and/or Diane McKinnon. Yes, Pam hid behind the scenes while others took the brunt of the shit storm she created. And Viper even feigned ignorance and disgust when in fact they were the masterminds behind the release. (Read the link at the bottom to see for yourself)
Now, I understand completely Pam felt her ‘family’ and livelihood was being attacked. I’m sure Diane felt the same way too.
How much further behind the scenes was she? Take a look at this from back in the day: http://worldoftb.com/index.php/2007/06/18/an_open_letter_by_a_woman_in_paintball?blog=1
In the letter she takes shots at MXS, Diane, Packman and the people who support them. She says in her letter for fear for her safety, but the real reason is she didn't want the heat, or be accountable. and neither did Viper.
If I may, allow me to quote a statement from that letter:
Pacman has a charismatic personality, and so did Jim Jones, David Koreche, and many others like him. Some people really know how to rally support and some people are just sheep, they need to follow directions, they need a purpose or a cause. That's how alot of cults are formed. Like it or not people tend to believe him. Unlike TB, who makes it easy for you to hate him, he doesn't tell you what you want to hear, he will tell you the truth. It's alot easier to hate TB or any other messenger of the truth, than to hate the truth. The truth makes you accountable for your actions and take responsibility. In the end, and only after the damage is done..The truth always wins.... The truth has never been told to us by Pacman. His career was based on a lie. In the end, to those that stand behind Pacman and Mother, do you really think Pacman and Mother will stand behind you.. like you are standing behind them? My guess is you will be left embarrassed with your paintball gun in hand and not feel comfortable to play at most games...That's a great loss for the paintball industry and who do you think will have been the cause?
And remember these are her words (I have the email, date and time stamped), so with that said, let's look at some truth, shall we?
My personal feelings aside, Diane 'Mother' Howe made great strides in getting women into paintball every chance she could. Regardless of whom her husband is. Diane has a legacy in paintball and is easily a legend. What she was/is to scenario paintball cannot be questioned. She was one of the first female commanders, one of the first women to win awards and was the first woman to run her own scenario production company. She was the first women on a recognized team (Marion's Raiders) and later Blitzkrieg. This is the woman who TAUGHT Viper how to play scenario (since she was his squad leader on Marion's Raiders) and is one of the reasons he even got into producing games to fucking start with.
You know up until this year, Pam had never stepped foot on the paintball field as a player, and now she is the expert on paintball and women in paintball too? How the fuck did that happen again?
I can tell you how that happened…see, it seems that Viper has a driving desire to have a female ‘equal’ in paintball, much like the duo of Mother and Packman. He has spent years trying to introduce his current ‘flavor’ to his business to the genre and to the sport. How many people remember Chaos? Or Princess? Or Shelly? I mean, he always wanted those people to be the yin to his yang, and I doubt anyone will blame him for that per se. Hobbies are best when shared, but this isn’t Kerry’s hobby; it is his business. Doesn’t matter that all the previous Lady Vipers have fallen well short of the ‘mark.’ Doesn’t matter that they’re all water under the bridge because they’re long gone. The fact remains that NONE of them were paintball players prior to life with Kerry, and Pam was no exception. She wouldn’t be in the sport at all if not for the fact that Kerry congresses with her sexually and she de facto ‘owns’ Viper Enterprises. See the last legal Lady Viper alienated a lot of the Viper player base, combined with poor business decisions such as Staff Infection and one bankruptcy later, Viper Enterprises found itself hanging by a thread.
That’s right, you heard me, it isn’t really Viper Enterprises, its Viper Enterprises sponsored by Pam Robertson. So, get used to it, boys and girls, she’s here to stay since everything is in her name. I have dealt with this ‘woman’ (and I use that word loosely) far more than I ever wanted to. But I digress, what has she done for paintball? Or women in paintball? Let me see, I have already pointed out the facts above regarding MXS, but there is so much more to see, know and learn and many more people directly affected by her involvement in the sport.
And they all have Pam to thank for Kerry’s seeming indifference these days. I mean she constantly pumps him up about how great he is and that all these people (like me) are out to get him. She thinks that Kerry should have his way and people should serve the great and mighty Viper like she does.
Again, there is more, so much more, but for now I am going to close with this: I have been quiet for a fucking year, but that time is over. I no longer have a reason to keep any more secrets for these kinds of people who roam the internet and post condescending, ‘holier-than-thou’ shit as if we owe them something. Pam, you haven’t done anything for the game of scenario paintball but keep Kerry in business by giving him access to your credit. You are walking in Princess’ shoes and have run off more people than you have ever invited to the party. Your new website will be a testament to/of your failures.
On that note, I am sure some women will love it, but this blog is about Pam and not the website. I will speak more at a later date as to why I am against the whole premise (and it isn’t because I am sexist). But for now, this is more than enough to chew on.
Will the MXS faithful (and yes they are still out there) welcome you back to Houston now that the truth has come out? Guess we shall see how (a) fickle they are or (b) show short their memories are. Fairweather friends? Or will they stick to their guns, like they posted they would on the now defunct MXS website? Only time will tell…
So, for those who have been asking me to write a blog entitled “Why do women who fuck paintball players/promoters/poobahs think they’re somebody because of it?” this one was for you! More to come…
But until then, take a look at this link to back in the day and see if it casts more light on the subject than before.
19 comments
And so it begins again...
If this is true - and I don't really doubt that it is - it answers a couple of my questions from before.
It explains V's pre-emptive strike posts better
and
I always wondered why you didn't fess up to preparing the package to be sent out as it wasn't like you to not take credit for something game changing like that. :)
I've got a couple of more Q's though:
After making me reread that pbn thread, who was "What now?" ?
and
Does this mean you aren't on the guest list for spaghetti dinners anymore? :)
I agree with ALOT of this !! I'm a known female paintball player and that site to me is a waste. I don't want to be segregated for being a woman !! I mean seriously wtf was she thinking ??
It is hard enough for females as it is bc sorry I don't want to be that pretty girl afraid to get hurt in a bikini on the field. I'm here to play paintball and shoot you no matter what's in your pants !! Yes she will have some groupies and the site will take a nose dive and I will laugh in the shadows..
I think what bothers me most is the rules to become PB woman of the year. I mean what you have to do pretty much only allows two people I can name right this second to get it and both of those females just happen to be on a team that's so far up Viper's ass you can smell it a mile away !!
I think she is just trying to get Viper Paintball back in the spotlight but the ones that know the true inner workings and all the things that happened behind closed doors know this one will bite her in the ass !! I can go on for days about that site and the ideas she has on that site that have been copied from others but the eyes of many shall be opened soon :)
P.S No I'm not a TB nutrider and I play at all producer's games so don't think for a minute I'm on on side or the other. I'm 100% neutral well for now :)~
It has begun for some time now, the only difference is I wasn't fighting back. More on that later, but just realize the people between me and Viper/Pam aren't there any more and the dog is off the leash. Actually I think Diane posted it somewhere about Viper and Jammer dealing with me that what were they going to do when their pitbull snapped back on them. I guess we get to see what happens.
On the pre-emptive post, that came because Mark Boatwright's (me) post was deleted and the account was banned. He wanted it to be out there but not as in your face as the initial post was. In fact as you can clearly see, it was shaped completely different, And Liam (Lapdance) had the documents put back up and it went for over 300 posts and 16 pages. (Don't worry I have them all saved, so going to PBNation to delete them now isn't going to save anything).
And I didn't fess up or even post in the thread because it was discussed and decided that I would bring nothing to the discussion. I posted on my website and I took all the heat on this incident. I always have, the MXS fanbase already didn't like me due to the lawsuit and other stuff at the time, and Viper always does things behind closed doors. But this is just too fucking much, and well there are no secret accounts, these are the real statements and the real stories all backed up by emails and IM conversations. I have every email and IM conversation I have ever had since 1999, going back over my time in the sport. And I can back up everything I have stated or said with exact time, dates and more.
As for who What Now? is, I truly do not know, but I have a speculation. If it is who I think it is, I am sorry I just cannot bring that out for her sake. I know that sounds like a cop-out, but you know her and she has moved on and put all this behind her. We have spoken several times (as she felt my motives were dubious at best) and I just cannot subject her to all the crap that would come out. Think about, you are a smart guy, Gary and I am sure you will be able to narrow it down.
Funny thing about sketti dinners, I have more to tell on that soon enough, but I haven't been to a sketti dinner in a long fucking time.
I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.
My speculation on who I thought she was is thinly veiled in my post that followed hers but I couldn't tell for sure.
And I kinda figured we'd be hearing about the 'sketti soon enough.
Welcome to paintball porn 2.0?
Going to let this simmer some more, before the next post.
"By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April's breeze unfurled;
Here once the embattled farmers stood,
And fired the shot heard 'round the world."
Or, one of my personal favourites
"I am become Shiva, the destroyer of Worlds"
I think the dyke has sprung a leak that will be unable to be plugged. And the sad thing is, that like the scorpion that stung the turtle carrying it across the river, it didn't have to end this way, but like the lesson learned in the parable...you can't change the nature of a thing.
Looking forward to seeing you guys soon TB.
Honestly, shouldn't we all sort of feel dumb? It was right there on Google for anybody to find, and there's a long list of people who do not like Pat.
I got a laugh out of it. I have no love for Pacman. Mother was usually nice, at least to my face, but afaik both of them talked plenty of shit about me behind my back. Can't get down with that... and irony of ironies, now my name is in other peoples mouths, spreading stories that have no truth behind them, attacking social relationships... that hadn't existed in years anyways... because I asked for some of my IP to not be used without permission.
Uh oh, guess I'm gonna be banned now.
I know, and I'll never tell. A couple other people hopefully never will either.
I'm not 100% sure on why TB is deciding to release all this, I'm sure it has a smiddgen to do with how he'd been treated. I'm sure it has to do with how Viper has been acting as of late. I'd like to know though TB, you know the e-mail I actually check.
I disagree with what you've done though. It wouldn't suprise me if Viper directed the blame to you but I'd hazard to say that he just left the assumption people had immedietly that it was you ride. Hell even I thought that until I heard the truth about the whole thing.
Irregardless of what Viper and his people have done since then I still whole heartidly believe it was the right thing to do. An informed populace is always more desirable for the good of the whole than an uniformed one. A populace being alerted to the sorrid truth of pacman's past is not a bad thing.
It wasn't Viper releasing the documents, the unsaid persons sending them, you propogating them online and taking the blame, or even my small part of dispassionate explaination of them in a number of forums which caused people to do what they did. It was the informed will of the masses that brought the end of MXS. For all the BS "the players speak" taglines we hear, this was the masses actually at work.
Admittedly I am more Pro Viper than some others who post here, but I interceed not to rally some sort of foolish support for him or personal gain but to instead continue what I have always said about this matter. It is better to have an informed populace than an ignorant one. Anyone who plays a part in that works twoards the good of the masses. The fact that this is often done with bias or personal gain in mind by a faction does not automatically denote evil but instead just what it is, a bias.
Bias is ever present throughout history whenever power or money is involved. As you have often pointed out paintball isn't magically diffrent than the world we live in. We all had it in some way when we played our part in this matter. Viper wanted a competitor gone, you had both your sponsership with him and great falling out with MXS (and morality I might add, still a bias), and I saw a perfect opportunity to increase my experience in researching law and dare I say make my name a little bit bigger (at the time I truly believed I could foster some measure of change through online discussion).
There are far many other ways to levy blame and condemnation at viper and his people. This should not be one of them. Only a fool would say his and his wifes motivations where of some pure and pious nature when they exposed pacman, but a good deed was still done because of it. The masses where correctly informed.
If that was not the case wouldn't we be exposing the distrubutor as well? Wouldn't we be appologizing for our part however big or small? Wouldn't we feel some measure of shame?
I feel none, and I know neither do you. What was done was right, irregardless of the motivations any of us held. What happened from the right we did, namely MXS being forced out, well that being good or bad is fairly debatable. I have not really thought on it.
We set a dangerous precident though if we try to punish those involved for what part they played. You do so when you expose Viper here, you even say it's your intent. Even if Viper has turned out to be as bad as MXS in terms or his business practices. Even if Viper is some sort of morally inept indiviual. Even if we're all just really really mad at him for something. This is not the right way to injure him and his own, it's just too dangerous of a precedent to set. And let me also note I'm not saying any of those above things about Viper for the layemen reading this.
Who will do what is good and right and illuminate the truth to the masses the next time if this sort of injury is almost assured? Who will be the one to do this if it means only a loss be it money or power? Only the most selfless of people, and you'll find them in very short supply. By doing this we are only diminishing the chance of someone coming forward the next time. And given the sort of person that is in Vipers position to be motivated to do this sort of thing I'd hazzard to say you almost destroy that chance.
For that reason I have to disagree with you on this decision TB. This decision, while it may injure someone who deserves it, is not balanced by the chance for public good it has dimished. I hope the lesson learned by anyone who reads this is not to stay silent in the future but only to involve as few as possible.
It is refreshing that a forum is around predominantly for women, perhaps you guys don't see some of the shit some ladies in paint ball have to put up with on some forums, I don't think it can have a negative effect.
I do how agree with the other female player who has commented that the pbwoman of the year is completely set up so only those the site owner knows can actually get this award. It would mean anyone nominated would have to attend 4 extra events a year on their calender, which is insane.
The website as a whole as it is not restricted just to women is a good idea, and most women using it won't give a flying F**k about the story behind the person that owned it.
So overall, website, good idea.
PBwoman of the year = a load of crap.
Politics involved = nothing really to do with the content or aim of website other than the PBwoman award being blatantly set up so praise those closest to the sites owner.
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