Comment from: ^Hawk^ [Member] Email
Thanks for taking the time to write about this Indy.

It makes my stomach churn to think about how our sport continues to cater to the LCD's infiltrating it.

And people wonder why foreign countries are kicking our ass in everything we do lately. Because we continuously reward average and below average people and punish over achievers.

06/07/10 @ 11:25
Comment from: Motherhen [Visitor]
I always hated you folks when they did this sorta stuff......

but man did I admire the ingenuity it took to pull it off.....

All the sudden base security became a REAL role to play for me instead of a simple pass through....loved it!

Even on the other side of that coin.
06/07/10 @ 11:56
Comment from: indy [Member] Email · http://www.ndtoys.com
Back in the day security was serious business. GKs worth points, ever present mission thieves, promoter placed spies.

The rules at once point changed to ease security restrictions because people were complaining they couldn't access their own general.

Teams actually came and stood shifts on security, by schedule. At Warcraft, Guilty showed up 30 deep, and pulled security the entire event. We expected to, because our captain was the general.

Funny how time and social pressures manage to ruin a thinking game.
06/07/10 @ 14:02
Comment from: Pyro [Visitor]
Indy, didn't you get your ass chewed by Viper for doing exactly this? What was the logic/reasoning given for actually being able to duplicate one of his cards and getting (as I recall) judge punched/kicked from the game for doing so?
06/07/10 @ 22:45
Comment from: indy [Member] Email · http://www.ndtoys.com
Nope. I have never, not once, even received a real judge punch in an event, never asked to leave, and never been kicked out. I've gotten fake ones, where the ultimate walked up, turned my badge into swiss cheese, laughed, and walked off... but no, never judge punched for a rules violation in over 60 games.

I'd be interested to see what games you recall me getting "kicked out of". Probably funny as hell. I hear a lot of stories about shit I did to people, at games I literally never even attended, as it is... so this should be rich.

You're probably alluding to a very old event, from about 12 years ago... and you have the story absolutely, and completely wrong. Not surprising, it's a 12 year old or so story, and it was never actually told in public until earlier this year.

See here: http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/1201529-post30.html
06/08/10 @ 08:10
Comment from: indy [Member] Email · http://www.ndtoys.com
and for the record, I have been threatened with expulsion (but not judge punched)... but it was by Mother, after I had a run in with TB who got one over on all of us at the time.

I told her flat out I was going back on to the field, finding TB, and emptying my entire harness into him. She screamed at me that it would be assault (in a scenario paintball game?).

That's the closest I've come to being ejected... and still, no judge punches.
06/08/10 @ 08:42
Comment from: Radical [Visitor]
But we change for the good of the game, and what about the children...?
My initiation into scenario was laying in the grass, talking to Mok who was playing on an ad hoc team, called "The Retarded Elves"??? We were waiting for a mission to be completed and someone from the opposite side got onto our generals net and said that the Elves were traitors and that they should be shot on sight.
Bad feeling, sneaky as hell, and it caused them to switch sides.
Someone said that that should be made illegal or we would lose players.
All these new rules are things that were Grey before and since the Bitching was loud enough the rules got fixed, for the children, for the good of the game. Try an Illuminati, get tossed, heart attack, tossed.
What ever happened to the newspaper method of learning? Do something, get rapped on the nose, learn to do things better, be more observant or get rapped on the nose again, repeat as necessary.
06/10/10 @ 17:01
Comment from: ^Hawk^ [Member] Email
Better ask Ratsnake....he's the king of re-writing rules so he won't lose business. God forbid his customers have to use their brains...

Imagine football with someone like him running the show?

Imagine hockey?

06/10/10 @ 17:27
Comment from: indy [Member] Email · http://www.ndtoys.com
Hey Radical, let me tell you a little story..

See, that guy at the net, that was Spiro. How, oh how, did Spiro.. who Viper didn't know was even at the event, make it into the enemy base?

I traded pre-game labor to Viper for a legit enemy ID card. I created the map of BSG in the game editor and exported it out for the event map. This was long before I ever wrote cards for him. This was my second event as a player. I also had approval for dynamite strapped to my chest, as a goblin sapper. I was going to blow up your entire side at game on, but Viper thwarted that by not giving me the ID and explosive until after game on.

I gave that ID to Spiro, instead of a suicide mission. Over time, he developed trust of your general. The heat and suspicions were catching up with him, so all of the elves became his patsies. You were chased from your own side, and had to go play for the side that Spiro was really on to begin with.

Funny how all that works, huh?
06/10/10 @ 17:36
Comment from: Radical [Visitor]
Indy, I wasn't on the Elves team, I was running with them because it was my first ever scenario. I was laying in the grass at an objective and that comes over the net. First game, about 4 hours into it and I hear the team I am running around with happen to be traitors.
Little ole me and about 15-20 traitors, Great! Got shot by my own side when the Elves tried to go to the base to deny the charges. "Wow" I thought, "Scenario ball is fun as hell".
Then, post game I learned the truth from Spiro. I thought that was a great trick and put it in my bag.
06/11/10 @ 13:30
Comment from: Pyro [Visitor]
Indy, you're correct. That's the story I was thinking of. My apologies for impugning your name based on faulty memory.
06/13/10 @ 19:02
Comment from: indy [Member] Email · http://www.ndtoys.com
It's all good. The true stories about me are usually way worse than the made up ones anyways.

So Pyro, while we're on this wonderful topic...

How does Blaze feel now that the tactic she used to snag my missions at Grail, was in fact, illegal the entire time? I thought it was clever, but apparently she cheated.. so I guess somebody owes me a grail.
06/14/10 @ 08:45
Comment from: Pyro [Visitor]
Indy,

Yeah...we had a conversation about that yesterday as a matter of fact. She was rather surprised by this "clarification" of the rules as many of us who've been around awhile were, I think. Her first reaction to this when I mentioned it to her was "Huh? What do you mean it's been AGAINST the rules the entire time? That's not how I remember the rules."

The numerous times we'd reffed I don't think anybody on our team would have called a player out on that and given 'em a punch for this move.

Hrm, guess we've been cheaters all this time. Funny that, since we had two player refs on our roster...
06/14/10 @ 13:55
Comment from: radical [Visitor]
I only have a problem with it if he was not spawning through his own hospital and base. If he was, shady but legal, in my opinion. If he wasn't he should have gotten number punched. With what I heard with the layout of the field, either he never got eliminated, or he spawned through the enemy base because he could not have made it through the middle on a regular basis. That I know is against the rules.
06/17/10 @ 16:15
Comment from: Swifty [Visitor]
He spawned in his own, correct, hospital. Insertion ref knew what was going on as did his general who gave him the card originally.

He would walk through his lines w/ his team jersey and then remove his jersey and just blend in with the other side while wearing their tape.
06/18/10 @ 10:16

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