Comment from: indy [Member] Email
indyJust food for thought, but you're overlooking relevance a little bit.

The real irony of the word "legend" to begin with, at least to me... is that it conjures up "legends of wrestling", a bunch of broken old men with no modern relevance that are just a footnotes. Go watch "The Wrestler" if you don't get what I'm saying.

and... Is Palmer a legend? Really? Why? Because he made parts and a re-arranged autococker with a non-removable barrel? Because PPS ran a Counter-Strike server?

Well, first off, the last time that guy did something interesting, I was in high school and you didn't play scenarios. Most people now wouldn't even know what it is if they saw it in person. Second, I owned a Palmer. It broke 2 hours into the first 2 events I attempted with it and was handed to Chronos for an electro-conversion (allegedly it's still on his wall). Third, I did speak to Glenn on a few occasions, and on all of them, he was a dickhead, and most recently, an apologist and excuse maker for the rapist.

I'm sorry, but how does creating and selling a product make you a "legend"? If that's really the case, why don't I know the name of the guy who invited my E-Vents? Possibly the best goggles ever designed and hugely popular.

How is it not obvious why somebody with Youtube fame would get more outpouring & concern, on the Internet, than a guy with a bad personality, obsolete product line, no real current contributions to the way many people now play or even the gear they use.

I do see one point though... at least I've heard of Palmer.... never heard of this Borg person... but maybe that just means my age is starting to show?
08/31/11 @ 08:50
Comment from: TB [Member] Email
The inventor of your Events, would be the aforementioned Simon from Kee. :) Just saying.

As for Legend and Icon, let's look at what they mean:

Legend: a person or thing that inspires legends (that would be Glenn and his works since it led to the Autococker and the popularity of pistols (Squall and a few others)

Icon: a person regarded as a sex symbol or as a symbol of a belief or cultural movement (and again that would match the fact that before Glenn invented the auto-cocking mechanism, except for some other marker technologies, there wasn't a effective way to mass produce semi-auto paintball markers of a mechanical variety and it was too expensive for electronics at the time. So not the sex symbol part but the mechanical semi-auto movement that is still alive and well today in some old school circles and he strengthened the pump market which is still very much still kicking).

Regardless of his demeanor, his defense of his friends or hell even his politics, you have to hand it to the man that he contributed to the sport in a big way. In fact everyone I mentioned above did. Borg did not, sorry his youtube channel was not even as popular as Tygers and well that is saying something.
08/31/11 @ 11:30
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